Honor and Battleground Holiday Weekends
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 19:06:36 With the release of patch 2.3.0, players have seen many changes to the way that honor gain occurs in Battlegrounds and most noticeably in Alterac Valley. Many aspects of this battleground have been changed to promote a more strategic event and rewards players for participating in many aspects of the battleground. Despite the changes made, the overall intention of these changes is to maintain a level of honor gain that players have become accustomed to as well as maintain pacing of how long the matches may last. Prior to the changes implemented in patch 2.3.0, honor gains were less consistent in how they were calculated, there were long games, extra-long games, short games, and holiday bonus honor calculations all factored in. With the patch, we have better simplified and defined this for active participants in these matches. With these changes has also come some confusion in regard to where honor bonus comes from during holiday weekends as well as how best for players to optimize gaining bonus honor within the battlegrounds. To help clear up this confusion, we have taken the time to put together more information. Diminishing Returns It’s important for players to understand the nature of gaining honor and what role diminishing returns plays with this. Diminishing returns on honor occurs over time as you kill the same opponent. For each kill you make past the initial kill, the honor gained for it is reduced by 10%. After ten kills of the same opponent, that player is no longer worth any honor. Estimated Honor Estimated Honor will show an amount of honor that does not factor in diminishing returns. This number can be less depending on whether or not you had a lot of kills where diminishing returns were applied. Honor is shared among players in a Raid when they are within range of a kill. When fractions of a kill or decimal amounts of honor are gained by a kill, the User Interface will round the estimated honor up to show one Honor point gained. Given enough time what shows as ten Honor points, could actually only be five Honor points gained. Daily honor calculations can also cause estimated honor to appear larger than what it actually is. If a player plays prior to the honor calculations being run, and then during or shortly after, the estimated honor may appear as a part of the previous day’s totals. In actuality, this honor applies to the next day and will be correctly calculated the next night when the next batch of honor calculations are run. Regular Honor vs. Holiday Honor Some weekends are considered Holiday weekends for a particular battleground. Envoys for the holiday battleground will be located within the major cities. Holiday weekends grant bonus honor for meeting particular goals within the battleground. The chart below shows the amount of regular honor and holiday bonus honor for each of the battlegrounds as well as the reputation gains. It is important to note the following: one kill= 20.9 honor at level 70. *Map Complete refers to the bonus honor awarded on holiday weekends for both the winning and losing teams when the match has concluded. Alterac Valley Bonus Honor Normal Holiday [ Post edited by Nethaera ] |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 19:19:19Warsong Gulch [ Post edited by Nethaera ] The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 19:32:53
The bonus is in the map complete at the end of the match. If you look, you'll see during normal BG days, it's 0. For the Holiday it's 4. While it may seem small, it can add up especially if you get all the other honor from the Battleground through attacking/defending etc. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 19:41:15
That's the total you receive. The Holiday column stands on it's own in this case and isn't additive (on top of normal honor). [ Post edited by Nethaera ] The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 19:48:51
Please reread this- *Map Complete refers to the bonus honor awarded on holiday weekends for both the winning and losing teams when the match has concluded. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
| by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 20:21:38 Keep in mind, as I basically said in my original post, the double honor gain that people claimed from before was based on some extra long games and various other factors that resulted in inconsistent honor gains. In this case, the AV battles are more consistent in the honor that can be gained and the time of play is kept relatively consistent as well. It emphasizes the importance of solid teamwork and strategic planning within the Battleground as well. While I understand that some aren't pleased with these changes, it's important that if you feel the need to give feedback, that you do so in a constructive manner. We're more than happy to look at the thoughts and feelings of the community on these things, but would rather not have to moderate out inappropriate language or discussion. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 10:56:44
Hey now! It was the same as yours, I just had less time to get the spacing perfect. ;) I've now used your updated format and put it in the original post. So thanks! The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 11:00:52
If you're running a "perfect" game, you should be able to get close to the same high end of a bonus weekend which I'm told is top end 700 points or so. I've refrained from giving specific ranges only because matches can have many variables to them as far as what accomplishments you've managed to achieve, how many kills you've been credited with, and more. There will still be a boost to honor gain during the bonus weekend compared to the regular honor times. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 11:10:11
We can only comment on things we have answers to. The most I can say is that we are monitoring these issues and are aware of them. When there is more that can be discussed, we will be here letting everyone know. I'd rather not have this thread derailed with too much extra discussion though. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 12:05:59
Player kills are subject to the diminishing returns. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 20/12/2007 12:43:55
I'll double-check on this and see if we can add it in. This is the current most accurate information we have on the main achievements for the battlegrounds so, please feel free to let me know if there is any other information you feel would add to what we have here and I'll see what we can do. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
by Nethaera | 21/12/2007 10:56:32
The diminishing returns should be per day. The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. - Terry Pratchett, "Hogfather", footnote |
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