Please sign if you agree

by Pasalietis | 26/02/2007 22:35:03



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This was on a previous thread and don;t know who started it but here it is. Please sign if you agree and want this to be reviewed by all druids and blue posters!

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I was reading some more threads, and I see that a lot of DRUIDS are saying that we should not be able to DPS as well as a rogue, or tank as well as a warrior, because "Then what point is there to warriors and rogues"?

That argument is retarded, and so is anyone who subscribes to it in any way, shape or form.

First off, by that logic, we should never under any circumstances be able to approach priest's healing capabilities, even if we sacrifice all of our talent points and other aspects toward this goal. Oh wait, most people consider that resto druids are about as good as a priest for raw healing? Why, those poor priests! Why roll one if druids can heal as well and also tank and DPS?

BECAUSE, EVEN IF A CLASS MATCHES ANOTHER IN ONE RAW ASPECT, IT DOES NOT COMPLETELY SUBSUME THAT CLASS

Whats this? Warriors can do DPS comparable to a rogue and tank? Why roll a rogue! Besides that fact that rogues have poisons, stuns, stealth, disarm trap, better aggro management, crowd control, a completely different system of using abilties and... oh wait, just because a warrior can do a rogue's DPS doesn't make the rogue useless. Wow!


Oh hey! How about warlocks and mages? Mages deal more DPS than warlocks, in general, so clearly there is no reason to roll a warlock and- OH WAIT! Thats a shallow comparison of one facet of a class taking into account no other variables or abilties. Hmmmm... sounds pretty dumb to me, just like the people who think we shouldn't have comparable straight tanking ability to a warrior if specialized to it in the right gear, or think that we shouldn't have comparable straight DPS ability to a rogue if specialized to it and in pure DPS gear. That is how our class is designed. We have forms that can match the raw power of their parent classes, but not provide the same utility.

If you are going to compare us to another class, compare us to another hybrid. Currently, paladins and shamans can both outDPS us, while in forms that maintain their full survivability and can heal. If a druid chooses to specialize in one aspect, be it tanking, melee DPS, healing, or spell-damage, chooses to gear for that spec, and then finally uses the mana to change into the appropriate form for that purpose therefore forsaking all his other aspects then...

A moonkin damn well better outdamage an elemental shaman
A cat damn well better outdamage an enhancement shaman or retribution paladin
A full resto druid damn well outheal a full resto shaman, or a holy paladin
And a bear damn well better out-tank a protection paladin

I can hear it already, "Oh, but what about the poor paladins and shamans! What purpose is left for them?" Its funny that whenever someone suggests that a druid be able to excel in something, the primary naysayers are other druids, not the classes whose interests they are supposedly trying to protect. Also, if you say that we should not be able to do more or the same DPS as other hybrids, then I throw your own point back at you: If other classes can outDPS, outHeal, and outTank us, why have druids? Because those other classes are not druids.

Shamans and paladins should intrinisically do less in whatever spec they choose than a specialized druid in the same form, because they do not have to switch forms and forsake all the other aspects of their class. Just because a highly specialized druid, who in specializing has nearly completely left behind all other aspects of his class, can outperform them in one thing does not make shamans or paladins obsolete. Why?

Because druids don't have blessings
Because druids don't have auras
Because druid's don't have shields
Because druids don't have judgements
Because druids are not paladins

Because druids don't have totems
Because druids don't have shocks
Because druids don't have self-res
Because druids don't have water walking, water breathing, ancestral recall and all the other things that make shamans what they are
Because druids are not shamans

If a druid has to give up more survivability and adaptability to do a task than a shaman or a paladin does, it is only balanced that the druid be able to do that specific task better than the shaman or paladin can, albeit with less survivability and adaptability.

If a rogue can deal full DPS without giving up any other aspect of his class, then a druid, who gives up every other aspect of his class, should be able to match the rogue in at least raw DPS.

Just coped from Chevette post. So please sign if you agree!
Not my idea, just reposting it for the let you now, first two locked, they can be found at

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=37025241&sid
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and

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=37044556&sid
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sign if you agree!

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[ Post edited by Pasalietis ]

by Vaneras | 26/02/2007 22:41:32

Vaneras



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