Community's Hunters' Class Review Summary 2
by Schwick | 16/11/2007 21:00:15 This summary got last updated on 21-11-07 Intro: Welcome, Some time has passed since I asked you people to submit feedback regarding the current state of the Hunters. This time I return with a revised version for 2.3. The following things have changed: - Added priority (see next subchapter) - Removed 2.3 feedback - Some spelling/grammar correction - Additional information to some feedback - Few new feedbacks Keep the feedback constructive and stay polite! And of course enjoy! A question of priority: A follow up on the previous Community review, I want to ask you people to rate the concerns. How does this work? Simple, you submit feedback and say what your top three concerns are right now (try to narrow it down and only pick things in this Community review). For example: 1. Shot rotation 2. Pet levelling and Happiness 3. Gear diversity You are even allowed to make two top 3’s; one for PvE and one for PvP. Why do this? It could speed up with forwarding “major” concerns. The summarized feedback:
Feedback drawn from: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1153025884&sid=1 Do note Priority 5 is the highest and Priority 1 being the lowest. Remember to give me your top 3 “concerns”! Itemisation/Items Arrows/Bullets cost (priority 3) Currently Hunters pay loads of money on Arrows/Bullets. Although it is fair compared to other classes with their reagents, Hunters do pay more in the end. Most Hunters pay for repair-bills (even with FD it can get high), flasks/elixirs & ammo. Sometimes even Hunters buy pet-food. Looking at the current prices (starting from 32.0 DPS): Pets Learning spells/abilities (priority 3) Currently if you wish to learn spells/abilities (that aren’t available from the pet teachers) you got to dump your current pet (most of the times the stable slots are full for Hunters), tame the new pet and keep spamming the ability until you learned it. Some Hunters say that this current way isn’t really that good. Learning spells/abilities from animals could be done through “Beast Lore”. Once casted on the animal it will learn the abilities it possesses. This would make learning abilities easier (and increasing the usage of this ability). Growl (priority 2) Some Hunters say that Growl is not as effective when not being Marksmanship; Growl by design stacks with AP. When being BM or Survival you are lacking this a little. Letting Growl also slightly stack with Agility would help with solving this. Off-tank (priority 2) BM Hunters liked the ability to be off-tanks during (non-heroic) 5-man runs. However, once going in Heroic or raid dungeons this role slightly fades away. Introducing BM specific gear would help with this aspect. Levelling/Loyalty (priority 5) The biggest pain of picking a pet is the pets’ level. Most people simply get a +Level 65 pet rather then a Level 10 pet. Increasing the Experience gain for pets and letting pets gain a percentage of the Experience from Quests would help greatly. Increasing the speed of loyalty gain might also help a little. Happiness (priority 4) Losing Happiness is currently too high; when a pet dies he/she/it goes down a rank. Decreasing this to two-three deaths and then lose one Happiness rank would boost the overall damage during a raid and overall annoyance. Another simpler idea would be to allow feeding pets during combat (feedback pet in combat will be dealt with in a future patch). BM pet survival (priority 3) While the new Mend Pet does help a lot in terms of DPS, it is not enough healing to make sure the Hunters’ pet keeps on surviving. Of course most BM Hunters can easily revive pets, but it takes them time to do it thus decreasing the DPS. Adding a new ability to heal pets for around 3000/4000 would help a lot. Not to mention it would boost the off-tank role of a pet. It would of course be instant cast with a huge cooldown (5-10 minutes). PvP survival (priority 2) While a Hunter with Resilience reduces damage for himself, it does not do the same for pets. Letting Resilience scale for the pet based upon the Resilience of the Hunter might help with for PvP combat. More scaling (priority 2) Besides Resilience scaling for pets, let crit rating and hit rating also scale. This will make sure a Survival Hunters also boosts the pet a little more. Jump (priority 2) While a pet can jump during being mind controlled by Hunters, pets don’t use the jump when a master does. Making pets jump when the Hunter jumps (when not in combat) makes the “dismiss pet when taking a short cut”-aspect less messy. The pet stays active and does not lose Happiness because of dismissing pets. Call of the beast (priority 2) Some Hunters use pets for specific aspects of the game. However, Hunters constantly need to run back and forward to the Stables to keep switching pets. This will allow Hunters to pick a pet even when not near a Stable. It would of course have a cooldown. A Hunter would have three new spells; each spell for each pet (“Call of <name>”). More pet abilities (priority 2) A lot of people suggested various pet abilities for various pet families. You can find them here: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298891649&sid=1 Collars (priority 3) Being able to customize a pet is what makes being a Hunter fun. With the pet normalizing change, all pets are the same. Only thing that can vary is the looks and abilities they posses. Adding Collars to pets might help increasing the uniqueness. A collar will be a new Hunter item slot for the pet. Some ideas are: - Increases focus by XX - Increases crit chance by XX - Increases hit chance by XX - Increases ability YY by XX - Increases Armour by XX This will also deal with such things as Hunter pets not scaling with crit and hit chance. Out of range (priority 3) Since content patch 2.3 has implemented the pet hiding behind the mob change, Hunters are reporting that this most of the times lead to the pet being out of range for Kill Command or Mend Pet. Extending the range just slightly might solve this problem. [ Post edited by Schwick ] Service with a smile :-) Warcraft Weekly 117:http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1610131133&sid=1 Info About 2.4 and beyond:http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612142635&si |
by Vaneras | 21/11/2007 16:29:21 Firstly I would just like to thank everybody for the great feedback you have been posting so far :-) Secondly I would like to answer this question, which I have quoted below:
When posting feedback you should make sure that you have posted what needs to be posted in order to describe an issue or concern at hand, but if you post too much, then there is a chance that your feedback may be incoherent and therefore less useful. Massive amounts of text will take longer to read and thus the process of extracting data is slowed down, which is quite undesirable. A good old saying says 'quality over quantity', which is very true in this case. Feedback that is short, easy to read and straight to the point is preferred over large essays containing lots of filler text. Nobody says you have to restrict yourself to just one or two lines of text when writing feedback, but try not to over-do it. What we like when gathering feedback: - Short but precise descriptions of the issue at hand. - Easy overview of text and presentation. - Good/clear documentation and/or illustrations to support your feedback and argumentation. What we do not like when gathering feedback: - Long essays and unnecessary filler text. - A biased or confrontational approach. - Using exaggerations, assumptions and dramatizations to support your feedback and argumentation. |
by Vaneras | 21/11/2007 18:37:33
Your previous 'TBC Hunter Concerns' threads were very good, so I would most certainly say that posts written in a similar manner would fit into the criteria for good feedback. :-) |
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